[2025] EWHC 2873 (KB)
King's / Queen's Bench Division of the High Court

[2025] EWHC 2873 (KB)

Fecha: 21-Oct-2025

The lay witness evidence

The lay witness evidence

12.

I heard evidence from the following witnesses:

Claimant:

12.1

Mr Adams.

12.2

Mr Raynes.

12.3

Ms Colby.

12.4

Mr Hitt.

12.5

Mr Copp.

Defendant:

12.6

Mr Potter.

12.7

Mr Johnson.

12.8

Mr Duncan.

12.9

Mr Kwak.

I decided not to read the witness statement from Mr Phillips who did not attend, despite being asked to give evidence.

13.

I have read the key documents in the trial bundle to which my attention was directed by counsel (many others were source customer purchasing records, some of which I have not read) and I have read the witness statements.

14.

Mr Adams. This witness is the division president of the USA holding company. He gave evidence that Tom James (US) has 100 offices worldwide and their customers were described as busy business executives, who wish custom made clothing, provided to them by salespersons coming to their homes and offices. The holding company’s headquarters are in Tennessee, USA. Mr Adams says they are the biggest made to measure garment manufacturer in the world. Their salespersons build up relationships with customers, know their wardrobes and lifestyles. A subsidiary called Holland and Sherry have a shop in Saville Row, London. Mr Adams asserted that the Defendant had strong leadership potential and sales performance, with a trajectory which was generally upwards. Leadership did not result. He said the company ethos was “we build people and people build the business”. In relation to salespersons departing the business, he stated that the Defendant inherited many clients from Paul Copp, who retired in June 2024, and spent about a year introducing the Defendant to his clients. He asserted the Defendant’s pay rose to over £78,000 by 2024 and he was aiming for over £81,000 in 2025. Mr Adams went on to describe the Defendant’s initial contract in 2017 and the new contract in 2022. He described clause 14 of the new contract and the stated Confidential Information which included the company's training programme and client list, business and sales strategies, pricing promotions, discounts and trunk shows, pitching, client dialogues and financial performance. He gave evidence about buying cycles. Mr Adams asserted there was a real threat if the old salesperson competed. In relation to the restrictive covenants in clause 19 and the RCC, he stated that the Defendant’s basic pay was increased by £7,000 per annum in the new contract. He asserted the RCC was altered in duration to 12 months but was otherwise the same and was to prevent ex-salespersons working in competing businesses. He stated in the USA the normal length was 24 months. There was an expanded definition of Restricted Clients. He asserted that previously salespeople had different lengths of covenant and the company wanted to align employees in the UK, even though senior salespersons, in leadership roles, had access to more information. He stated the two main reasons for the increased duration of the restrictive covenants were to protect the Claimant’s legitimate business interests and highly confidential information. He asserted that the company's client lists would be used by competitors to solicit clients and their price lists would be undercut and he wanted to prevent that. The Claimant also arranged 2 trunk shows per annum (face to face sales in the London office). He asserted that clients had summer and winter wardrobes and some purchases were related to bonuses. He asserted the 12 month RCC duration was needed because clients had busy schedules and it usually took 85 calls to book 5 appointments with different clients. He relied on the Defendant’s sales data. John Hitt had done a review some years ago. The Claimant had analysed 300 of the Defendant’s clients and Mr Adams asserted that this showed an average buying cycle of just under 12 months. He also relied on bundle pages 2098-2146. He said 80% of sales come from existing customers, typically buying every two years. Mr Adams asserted the weekly sales reports of the Defendant were not properly filled in during the weeks before he resigned. He asserted the Defendant deprived the company of this because he refused to engage and help build up the relationship with the new salespersons. He asserted that it was difficult to discover if a departed salesman was breaching the other restrictive covenants and that contacting customers to ask them was difficult. He described the Defendant’s role as selling and measuring and he described the recruitment and training process. He asserted that the training included shadowing for six months and two weeks in a classroom. The company’s intranet site had training packs on it. An Advanced Sales School in the USA was held twice per annum. He asserted the Defendant had 461 allocated customers. In the last 12 months the Defendant had sold to 81 customers. On the Defendant’s resignation, his access to the CRM system was terminated. The company did not provide mobile phones to salespersons and he asserted that some departed salespersons could retain the customer information on their personal phones and he had concerns that the Defendant had done so. Mr Adams asserted that the Defendant had failed to provide a detailed handover to new salespersons despite other departing salespersons having done so. He asserted that the Defendant failed to write up his notes, so information was lost. Mr Adams asserted that the Claimant had only resold to 15% of the Defendant’s customers since the Defendant’s departure. As to the geographic scope of the RCC, Mr Adams stated virtually all of the Defendant's clients were in the UK and all his material work was in the UK.

15.

As to the Defendant’s conduct, Mr Adams stated that he was accused of sexual misconduct at work and of damaging office property. Then later, due to his conduct in January 2025 in Orlando, the Defendant was suspended and asked to sign an Addendum “final chance” agreement. This required him to take remedial steps including: coaching in London by Susan Klein and counselling by Father Robert Sims. Mr Adams was concerned the Defendant had breached his contract. He asserted the Defendant was in negotiations with “Trunk”. He asserted that after the Defendant's resignation the company required him to help in handovers and reminded him of his restrictive covenants and to return property by the 27.5.2025. The Defendant did hand over his keys and but had previously delivered his company ipad to a tailor. Analysis of the CRM system showed that the Defendant’s sales activity was down 131% year on year, selling 156 units in February; 66 in March; 9 in April and none in May 2025. Mr Adams was concerned that the Defendant was deliberately running down his sales to capitalise on his customers by competing later. He asserted the Defendant recorded no client contacts between February and the end of April 2025 and there should have been 20 per week. When the Defendant left, replacement salespersons had contacted his customers. Mr Adams asserted that on 10.6.2025 a customer called Mr Kwak had told the replacement salesperson (Tom Ashton) that the Defendant had said he intended to compete for the Claimant’s customers and solicited Mr Kwak. He also asserted that Connor Morrison, a salesperson, told him on 11.6.2025 that he had spoken to the Defendant about setting up their own business in competition. As for the correspondence from the company's solicitors, Baker McKenzie, this led to the Defendant returning a USB drive on 23.6.2025 but that drive was missing his WhatsApp messages from his personal phone. Those were delivered on a second USB drive on the 9.7.2025. In conclusion, Mr Adams stated that the trust by the Claimant in the Defendant had gone and the Claimant did not believe that the Defendant would comply with his undertakings. He complained that the Defendant was using lawyers whilst pretending to be a litigant in person and his lawyers were the same as another salesperson, who had resigned 10 days after the Defendant. Mr Adams suspected collusion between the two and that they were in business together, but he accepted there was no clear evidence of that. Mr Adams complained of a cartoon which the Defendant had put on social media. Mr Adams asserted the Defendant intended to compete and asserted the Claimant needed to protect its client connections and did not consider the other restrictive covenants were enough because they were impossible to police.

16.

In cross examination, Mr Adams accepted that the Defendant sold off the peg clothes including jeans, shoes, belts, and garments from: Crockett and Jones, Allen Edmonds and others alongside made to measure. He accepted that any business which sold such items would be in competition with the Claimant. However, he asserted the Claimant did not sell much of these items. Mr Adams accepted that the Defendant was not in a leadership role. He restated that the sales training provided was confidential information and asserted that the measuring devices they provided were confidential. When pressed on why sales techniques or measuring devices were confidential, he was unable to explain. As to the words to be used when selling, he accepted this was part of the skill base of the salesmen which was being improved by training. He accepted that taking detailed measurements was also done by competitors and was part of the skill of the salesperson's trade. He also accepted that the Defendant had not taken any measuring devices with him. He accepted, in relation to sales techniques, that every sales organisation provided some training. He accepted that the few examples of the sales wording given to salespersons set out in the Trial Bundle were little more than standard sales patter. Eventually, when pressed, he accepted that the sales training was not confidential and in any event was passed on to customers. The information provided to the Defendant at conferences would be passed on to customers as well. Likewise, the information in the training sessions and daily newsletter. These set out the company's products and how to sell them. All customers would know of the prices because salespersons would pass them on. He asserted he “believed” this information was proprietary. He complained that training cost a lot of money and so it must be confidential, but accepted that training improved the salesperson's skill. As for made to measure products which were bespoke, for instance from their Oxxford factory, he did not accept that the “cut” and the training about the material was not confidential. In relation to information about company stock, Mr Adams accepted that that was given to the Defendant in his capacity as a stockholder, not as an employee.

17.

After lunch on the first day of his evidence Mr Adams sought to row back on his evidence about competition given before lunch. He asserted that any shops selling the same goods as the Claimant (off the peg jackets and shirts, shoes, belts, ties, luggage etc) would not be competing with the Claimant, because the Claimant mainly sought to sell made to measure garments. However, he accepted that the Claimant did carry out price comparisons when pricing their off the peg shirts and accessary items ties, shoes and other garments. He went so far as to suggest that these were sold “at a loss”. Mr Adams accepted that the Defendant was not told of margins, which were confidential at a higher level within the US company. As for the measurements of customers and their personal information, Mr Adams accepted that for all of them this information had been returned and the Defendant would not be able to recall the measurements of the thousands of customers. He accepted that was not information that needed to be protected by a non-compete clause. As for prices and price variations for the thousands of made to measure garments, Mr Adams accepted the Defendant could not keep that information in his head and therefore a non-compete clause was not needed. As for the company's customer information, Mr Adams accepted the Defendant had returned it in the two USB sticks and accepted that he did not need a non-compete clause for that. Mr Adams accepted that, once the company had cut the Defendant off from Outlook, the CRM system and the Internet, which they did the day after his resignation, he had no access to any of the customers’ confidential information. When asked what confidential information was left to be protected, Mr Adams could only come up with the assertion that the Defendant would be able to recall his customers names and where they worked. He accepted that, so long as the non-solicitation and non-dealing restrictions were complied with a non-compete would not be needed. However, he then asserted that the Defendant might bump into customers unintentionally. When asked why the company needed a blanket non-compete covenant his response was: the Defendant had signed it. When asked further, what legitimate business interest was being protected by the RCC, Mr Adams said that customer relationships were paramount. He complained that the Defendant did not provide a detailed handover and the new sales representatives did not know what was going on, so that adversely affected the build up of the relationships. When asked why the Claimant was trying to stop the Defendant working with people who were not customers of the Claimant, he replied: we’re not telling him he cannot go into retail. When asked again why he should not sell bespoke tailoring to people who were not the Claimant’s customers, Mr Adams stated he did not wish his clients to know that the Defendant was offering bespoke tailoring to others. Mr Adams asserted that it was difficult to police non-solicit and non-deal covenants. It was put to him that the company could work out that the customer was being solicited by the fact that the customer stopped communicating with the Claimant altogether. He denied that. He asserted that having no response does not mean anything. He accepted the Defendant only sold in the City of London, Mayfair, Canary Wharf and Westminster. It was a limited area and therefore what was going on with the Defendant’s customers should have been easier to know. He was asked about the RCCs in the 2022 contract. He did not know whether the changes to the RCC were deliberate and had no insight into that. He stated that, in the US, the non-compete covenants lasted 24 months and he thought 12 months was too low. They were changed so that they were all the same duration. His witness statement said that the RCC's were “otherwise the same” and it was put to him that this assertion was wrong. He said he did not believe they had changed. He was challenged on the changes between the 2017 contract and the 2022 contract and the definition of Restricted Business. He did not accept that the scope of the RCC was widened. When cross examined on the detail, he had to contradict himself and accept that the RCC had been widened. He was unsure about the detail of Restricted Businesses and the definition of it. He accepted the definition was widened to other geographical areas. Widened from just where the Defendant worked to other geographical areas and the scope was widened to include areas of business to which he had “access to information”. He accepted that the Defendant's job as a salesman had not changed when the contract was changed. He could not answer the question of why it was reasonable in 2017 to have 6 months, but that in 2022 it was changed to 12 months. Eventually he accepted that both the 12 month duration and the scope of the RCC were changed. He agreed the RCC also applied to team leaders in London who had access to a broader range of confidential information so it was one size fits all. When shown the relief provisions from the restrictive covenants in the 2017 agreement, which had been deleted in the 2022 agreement, he simply said he was not involved in the changes. It was put to Mr Adams that the increased RCC scope was unnecessary on his own evidence and he responded that he did not know, but he thought Mr Hitt reviewed all RCCs in the 2017 review. When asked about the removal of the second relief from the agreement in relation to capacity and function, he agreed it was not necessary to restrict the Defendant from working in a different capacity or a different function. He was then taken through the various analyses of the Defendant’s sales and agreed that Claimant’s replacement salespersons had made very substantial efforts to contact the Defendant’s customers. A list drawn up by the Defendant showed similar sales after he left (up to 9th July 2025) to the same period the year before. He accepted that if the Claimant had provided the Court with more information showing the contacts made between new salespersons and the Defendant’s old customers then more accurate information about the build-up of relationships would have been available to the Court. Mr Adams accepted that the Claimant’s new salespersons had contacted customers. When asked about buying cycles he abandoned his assertion that bonuses were relevant and did not know when they were paid in the UK anyway. He was challenged with sheets of figures provided on disclosure showing sales to 18% of customers in the 3 month period since the Defendant resigned. Mr Adams stated that did not match his analysis, but he had not provided any analysis himself. He accepted that rebuilding a relationship with an old client could be effected by different salespersons with customers either: slowly, at medium speed or fast. The speed of sales sheets showed some of the Claimant’s successful sales to the Defendant’s customers were made very quickly after he resigned. Mr Adams was challenged with a list of sales made three months since the Defendant’s resignation, compared with the same three months the year before. During both periods, 32 sales were made. He refused to agree that there had been a “very effective” transfer of relationships, based on those figures. He refused to accept that this showed quick sales within three months (I was particularly unimpressed with that answer). Mr Adams accepted that the word “intent” in the RCC was incredibly vague. When challenged on his assertion that there had been “lengthy consultations” on the restrictive covenants his answers were likewise unimpressive. He accepted the Defendant had told Mr Raynes he was not taking the “Trunk offer”. When questioned on paragraph 86 of his witness statement relating to the conversation on, 12.3.2025, he accepted the Defendant told him of the job offer and he knew nothing of the business of Trunk or whether they were a competitor, so his assertion at paragraph 86 rather fell apart. He also accepted that it was not a breach of duty for the Defendant to discuss an offer of working in an estate agency with his brother-in-law. In relation to confidential information, he did not know what access the Defendant had through the Claimant’s intranet service. As for Mr Powell, he accepted he had no recollection of any discussion of changes to the restrictive covenants with him. As for the reason why the Defendant left, Mr Adams persisted in stating he did not know that the Defendant was disillusioned or frustrated with the Claimant; was unhappy about the counselling by Father Bob, his suspension from leadership and well-earned Aruba trip. When challenged over the conversation which the Defendant had with Mr Kwak, he accepted what Mr Kwak had written in his witness statement was probably the truth. He admitted that Mr Ashton was not being called to deny what Mr Kwak said. In relation to the conversation with Mr Morrison, Mr Adams accepted that, if the Defendant was giving reassurance, that would not be a breach of contract. When the effects of the Defendant being unable to work in a position for which he has good skills or any similar position for any competitor to the business of the Claimant or the holding company or group companies, for a year, Mr Adams accepted that might be stressful but quipped that giving evidence was stressful. He agreed that, for the term to be reasonable, the company would need to weigh up the interests of the company and the employee to arrive at a fair balance. He could not say who had carried out that exercise.

18.

I did not find Mr Adam’s evidence impressive or credible on many key issues. Through carefully prepared and professional cross examination, Mr Lewinski exposed the allegations made by Mr Adams against Mr Potter as hearsay, flimsy, unsupported supposition and suffused with arrogant self-interest. Many were withdrawn by Mr Adams in his evidence. None of the first-hand witnesses available to the Claimant were called by the Claimant to support the allegations of breach. The allegation of trying to turn Mr Kwak away from the Claimant company was contradicted by Mr Kwak himself. Mr Adams accepted Mr Kwak’s witness statement before he gave live evidence. Yet, despite his served statement, he was still called to give evidence. No questions were asked of him to challenge his account of his wholly innocent conversation with the Defendant. The questions were more general. Mr Stohner was not called to give evidence about the changes he appears to have made to the restrictive covenants. In his evidence and criticisms of the Defendant, Mr Adams led the charge but faltered at all the key jumps.

19.

Mr Hitt. Mr Hitt is the Chief Financial Officer of the US holding company. He gave evidence of the cost of hiring and training salespersons. He had also analysed buying cycles in 2017 generally and more specifically for the Defendant more recently. He was not involved in the changes to the contract RCC in 2022. He stated that the general consecutive year sales figures for customers were: 40% and, when a salesperson left, the target resale percentage was 20% of customers in 3 months, 30% in 6 months and 40% in a year. He looked at 300 of the Defendant’s “active” customers (BP2098) and worked out an average buying cycle of 11.7 months. This reduced to 8.66 months for those to whom the Defendant had sold in the 12 months before departure. There were many variations in the individual figures. He asserted that this justified the expanded RCC. But all his evidence was ex-post facto justification. In his second witness statement he corrected the base survey number of the Defendant’s customers to 250 active ones and accepted that the Claimant had sold a wide range of ancillary products, not just made to measure garments and stated that the entire US Group only sold around $573,000 of ancillary products in 2024, so it was a small part of their business. He also asserted, by producing one or two partly blanked out sheets, that the Defendant could see the Claimant’s gross profit and wholesale costs and hence margins on each category of garment. He provided a third witness statement during the trial evidencing that the Defendant could access the names and contact details of any of the Claimant’s clients worldwide, if he knew the store location and contact name. He accepted in cross examination that his analysis (Hitt 1) of 250 customers, included customers who had not bought from the Defendant for up to 3 years. The less active clients therefore skewed the mean figure to 11.17 months. He accepted that average figures did not represent everyone and were not relevant to building up a relationship with a customer. He could not say how long it would take to rebuild a relationship with one of the Defendant’s customers. He had not done that analysis. He also accepted that the key information for the time taken to build up a relationship with the Defendant’s old customers would best be measured by a chart showing, for each, the time between first new contact and first new sale. When shown a chart of those times prepared by others, he accepted there was a considerable measure of success in the first few months. He accepted that a salesperson who inherited customers would focus on the higher volume and value buyers first. Those who had not bought in a long time would be less likely to buy again. It would be best to focus on the top buyers as representative. He generally stuck to his average figure as a guide. He also accepted that he did not know if the Defendant ever saw the gross profit area of the intranet site.

20.

I was generally impressed with Mr Hitt’s evidence, but I do not accept his assertions that any of the buying cycle calculations which he did justified the 12 month restrictive covenant against competition imposed in 2022, as I shall explain below.

21.

Paul Copp. This witness was a senior salesperson who worked for the Claimant in London for 32 years. He rose to Divisional President with world-wide responsibilities. He was quick witted and admitted in cross examination that he had a huge stock holding in the Claimant company, still to be paid out. On buying patterns, he said they had changed with Covid. He thought the 12 months RCC was justified by buying cycles. On handovers, when he was due to retire he handed over clients by introduction to the new allocated person. His clients helped the Defendant get into the Presidents Club, for higher sellers. The Defendant’s sales rose from 2023 (1132 units) to 2024 (1385 units). Each unit was worth £385. He was “very disappointed” by the Defendant resigning. In cross examination he agreed that there were no fixed buying pattens for customers. It was based on need, desire, moving jobs and many other factors. The key was to stay in touch with them and build a relationship. When a salesperson resigns the key was to get in touch quickly and chat. Customers may say: contact me again in a year, or they may want to buy straight away. The sales gap is not the determinant of the strength of the relationship. They are separate. A three-year gap between sales does not mean it takes 3 years to build a relationship. He asserted that at the end of his employment the Defendant’s sales “dropped off a cliff” but he was not present in 2025. He accepted that to rebuild with a new salesperson, 20% of customers were easy, the rest were not, but that 20% were the key ones and provided most of the sales. It was the 20-80 rule. 20% of customers provide 80% of sales. He said in cross examination that he was involved in a discussion of the length of the RCC in 2022 (an assertion he did not make in his witness statement). He said he discussed it with Mr Raynes, Ms Colby and Mr Adams (contradicting Mr Adams’ evidence and Ms Colby’s, who both said they were not involved). He did not recall it was to harmonise the duration or terms. He accepted that sales gaps did not show how long it took to establish a rebuild relationship. He supported a 12 month RCC because “we lose a lot of people” (in my judgment that is not a good reason for a long RCC). Bizarrely, he refused to accept that the fact that the Claimant made the same number of sales (32) from his customers in the 3 months after the Defendant left, as the Defendant had done in the same 3 months the year before, had any indicative relevance. At the end of his evidence he was asked and admitted that he did not think that the RCC added anything to the cover provided by the non-solicit and the non-deal covenants.

22.

Mr Copp was a charming witness, however he was clearly giving evidence to protect the company and his investment in it. I consider that there is a substantial difference between a warm handover by a long-term employee who is retiring, and a disaffected salesman who is resigning due to that disaffection and who is then treated brutally in post resignation correspondence, as I shall set out below.

23.

Joanna Colby. This lady was and is the Claimant’s HR manager in London. She has worked for them since 1996. She described how the Claimant company had grown to expand into four cities outside London and then contracted back to London and Birmingham. It also operates and sells in Dubai, Germany, Austria, France, Spain and Netherlands. She described the new benefits in the 2022 contracts. She asserted that George Stohner, Chief of Legal, changed the restrictive covenants, she was not personally involved.

24.

Stopping there, I find that evidence very telling. The head of HR had no involvement in the broadening of the restrictions placed on staff. Taking that with Mr Adams and Mr Hitt having no involvement, it means that no involved witness was called by the Claimant to evidence why the covenants were changed, certainly not Mr Stohner.

25.

Ms Colby also asserted that she had held briefings for staff in groups and individually and “explained the changes”, but she did not recall “walking through” the changes to the restrictive covenants. It sounded to me very much like Ms Colby was selling the benefits to the staff and ignoring the disadvantages. In cross examination she could not recall what she did with the Defendant. She described the Defendant’s sales performance, noting a strong performance in February 2025, selling 156 units, then a decline. She set out the Defendant’s conduct issues at some length. She asserted that his resignation on Friday 23.5.2025 came with no reasons. She responded on Saturday 24.5.2025 by email terminating all his access; threatening a “thorough investigation”; banning him from the office; banning him from contacting customers; banning him from any alternative work at all in the notice period; requiring the return of all property and requiring all info on his own devices by Tuesday 27.5.2025. That was hardly a warm and friendly approach to his resignation. Far from it. She also required him to assist new salespersons, but did not say how. The very next day, a Sunday, Baker McKenzie, a large legal firm instructed by the Claimant, turned up on the Defendant’s doorstep at his home and hand delivered a letter to his girlfriend. That was no less threatening. It asserted that there was “concerning information and behaviours that our client has become aware of in recent weeks” …” it has reason to believe that you intend shortly to work in or operate a competing business and will use our client’s confidential information and will solicit or deal with our Client’s customers or prospective customers. … As indicated in Ms Colby’s letter … the company intends to investigate its concerns about breaches ...” Ms Colby was named and clearly involved. If some of the assertions also came from Mr Adams, they would be wholly consistent with his approach to the evidence he gave in Court before cross examination. Baker McKenzie then summarised the restrictive covenants in the 2022 agreement. Ms Colby gave evidence that she requested the Defendant to assist with handovers in a letter dated Thursday 29th May. That involved a complete turnaround from her earlier “banning” letter sent the Saturday before. Despite being banned from the office she wrote that, he was not on gardening leave, was required to come into the office every day, all day, from Wednesday 4.6.2025 and to sit in the Accounts Room. He would have no keys. She would give him access. He was instructed to complete detailed client information sheets and to answer questions from colleagues, send letters out to each client (drafted by someone else) and facilitate introductions. In relation to pay, he would receive only basic pay (no commission). He was given an ominous warning about his stock options: the company had discretion to in relation to his conduct, to review refusing to repurchase them. In my judgment, that series of letters was aggressive and humiliating in relation to his status, behaviour, stock options, pay and even his ability to get into and out of the office door. Ms Colby did not raise or comment on any of the contradictory and harsh content of these letters in her witness statement, she omitted them. What she did was to set out how the Defendant did not return documents and did not come into the office, did not invite customers to the trunk sale in June and she alleged that he had been approached by a competitor. She complained that the Defendant refused to sign the undertakings initially required by Baker McKenzie (which they later admitted were far too wide, but she did not mention that). The Claimant reassigned all of the Defendant’s customers and Ms Colby complained that the Defendant did not assist with handovers, despite her request. She asserted that she was suspicious of his GP’s medical certificates, for 2 days, until the second one was delivered. She received his USB stick with the company’s information from his devices but pointed out that his personal phone WhatsApp messages were not included. None of Ms Colby’s requests before 27.6.2025 mentioned those. He provided them 12 days later, on 9.7.2025.

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On 13.10.2025, two days before trial, Ms Colby signed a second witness statement setting out the facts of a non-event in a pub on 8.10.2025, which occurred after a court hearing between the Claimant and Mr Powell, the result of which was kept confidential from the Court. A message had been sent by the Defendant via a waitress with a free drink alongside it to one Simon Herring, who was with Ms Colby upstairs in the pub. It read “good luck”. Simon went downstairs and spoke to the waitress and reported back that she said that the Defendant had said to the waitress that someone, (they presumed Simon) was his “worst enemy”. Ms Colby asserted that she was severely shaken by this. She found it intimidating and she felt threatened. She suspected the Defendant and Mr Powell were colluding to resign and compete against the Claimant.

27.

In cross examination Ms Colby blamed the lack of documentation, to evidence what had led to the change in the restrictive covenants in 2022, on a cyber-attack. She accepted that she had produced the calculations and information at BP2077 calculating a buying cycle of 10.77 months for 116 of the Defendant’s customers who he inherited from other salespersons. She admitted that she had included in that list one who had been dormant for 7 years, another who took 76 months between purchases, another who took 62 and another who took 60 months. I have not been able to calculate whether the figure she provided was accurate but it certainly included outliers. As for the 2022 contract she asserted, for the first time in her live evidence, that Mr Powell and she went to Baker McKenzie and discussed the restrictive covenants in 2022. It was privileged and she could not say what was discussed. In contrast, Ms Colby could not confirm that she explained the covenants to the Defendant because she could not recall. She accepted that she should have explained them. She admitted that the Claimant made no suggestion, after the delivery of the USB sticks, that the Defendant retained any confidential information. She was asked why the Claimant did not issue salespersons with company phones if they were so worried about retrieving WhatsApp messages after they resigned. Her evidence was that they had thought about it but decided not to do so. She admitted that if she had known that the GP prescribed the Defendant Propranol and another drug for stress she would have changed her mind on her suspicion over his ability to provide handover. She accepted it was reasonable for him not to come in to work. She asserted that she was not aware that he had found the last months at the Claimant difficult and upsetting. She was aware that he had to take sessions weekly with Father Bob, was deprived of leadership roles, was prevented from going to Aruba on a sales earned reward basis and had suffered other restrictions. She was not aware that he felt he had been treated inconsistently with other staff who did the same as him or worse in Orlando. She was not aware that his quality concerns had not been addressed. She accepted that hand delivering letters to an employee’s home on a Sunday was not normal. She refused to say that her post resignation handling of the Defendant was aggressive and intimidating.

28.

Stopping there, for the head of HR: (1) to be unaware of her own employee’s long held concerns at work which he had told her boss, and (2) to refuse to accept that hand delivering a threatening letter drafted by a large law firm to an employee’s home on a Sunday, was intimidating; were both disappointing. Particularly in the light of her third witness statement on the pub note non-event. Combining that with her inability to recall explaining the restrictive covenants to her staff and the Defendant and the uncontested evidence from the Defendant that over 50 salespersons had left the Claimant’s UK operation between 2017 and 2025, I did not find Ms Colby’s evidence insightful, persuasive or balanced. Quite the opposite.

29.

Douglas Raynes. This gentleman was and is the London Sales Leader for the Claimant.

He has worked for them since 1997. He described the business. Salespersons cannot alter pricing. He asserted that the price points were secret. They are not published. (I note however, that all customers are given prices for every item they buy and the company has thousands of customers). The only information I was given was that a man’s made to measure suit costs around £2,500. No other secret information was given to me either in open court or in closed session on price points. Mr Raynes stated that some customers make several purchases per annum. Often 2-3 outfits or for specific events. He asserted that the buying cycles were between 6 and 12 months which, he asserted, supported a 12 month RCC. He described the Defendant’s job. He was not, for instance, surprised that when he resigned the Defendant did not invite customers to the trunk show in June 2025. He accepted that the Defendant had some foreign customers but he met them in London. He accepted that the Defendant communicated with staff in the USA. He described how the Defendant’s sales grew over the years but he remained 5th out of 9 salespersons in the London office. He described the training process. He asserted that the Defendant had 461 customers allocated to him and 372 were “active”. Many were inherited. After the Defendant left, Mr Raynes needed time to rebuild customer relationships. The London sales team took his clients. Then they all reached out to the customers. The CRM showed the customers’ preferences and sales. He warned that a salesperson who left could offer a lower price for similar quality products.

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Stopping there. I do not understand this assertion. The Claimant makes its own made to measure and off the peg garments in the USA (and maybe Canada and Chile) from fabric that it makes of its own design. It is wholly unclear to me how another company can compete on product or fabric because they do not have access to these, at least for made to measure garments. As to prices, every customer is told the price for the products ordered, so the final price is in the market for discussion between those in any office who want to buy made to measure. The Claimant’s only marketing is by referrals, so also any referee may (and probably will) get the price from the referrer. No evidence was provided by Mr Raynes nor the Claimant as to what advantage an ex-salesman would get working for a different company with different fabrics and different manufacturers and selling to people who are not one of the Claimant’s existing customers. As for existing customers, the ex-salesman would not be offering the same product if he broke his non-solicitation covenant.

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Mr Raynes criticised the Defendant for failing to help with handover. He made no mention of the GP’s note in his witness statement, yet he was the Defendant’s boss. Mr Raynes mentioned the Defendant’s misconduct issues and asserted his resignation was a “shock”. He summarised a meeting with the Defendant in March 2025 (about “Trunk” Australia) but described them as “another tailoring company”. He accepted he was told that the Defendant had rejected the offer. He said this was not uncommon and he expected his salespersons to be approached. He made no mention at all of the Defendant’s dissatisfaction with the Claimant’s products or the last chance Addendum. Mr Raynes made general allegations that the Defendant had caused harm to the Claimant through: (1) use of confidential information from the CRM or his personal devices (he did not descend into any detail); (2) by his actions after resignation but before departure (he ignored the GP’s diagnosis and treatment for stress); (3) by his “clear intent” to compete. What he did not set out was evidential support for that assertion. He asserted that the RCC was needed, based on typical buying cycles and to give the Claimant time to re-establish relationships with customers and to ensure that confidential information lost its value with time.

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In live evidence in chief Mr Raynes stated that the company had sold to 17% of the Defendant’s customers by near the end of August 2025 (3 months since resignation). (I note that this compares well with the target for sales post departure set by Mr Hitt at 20%.) He asserted that, if their customers heard that the Defendant was in business elsewhere doing the same work, they might “defer to Max”. He asserted that no client wanted to get involved in a fight between ex-employer and ex-employee and the Claimant did not want to ask clients if they had followed the Defendant by dealing with him in a competitor business. In cross examination, Mr Raynes accepted that the Defendant had 78 or 81 customers who had made purchases in the 12 months before he left. The Claimant had managed to sell to 39 of those since he had left (by near the end of August 2025). He admitted that the Claimant had not provided the Court with details relating to all the 461 allocated customers, about who had contacted them and what they said. This is an important point in my judgment. That full information would have given this Court an accurate view of whether customers were avoiding the Claimant’s new salespersons or were talking to them but just were not ready to buy and had asked for a call back, say later in the year or even next year. He admitted that he knew that the Defendant had “frustrations” when he left (which is to be compared with Ms Colby saying it was out of the blue). He accepted that he had access to customers details throughout the world. He was unaware what access the Defendant would have had. Mr Raynes had access to finance and strategy, the Defendant did not. (I will consider this below in relation to the one size fits all approach to the RCC for all salespersons including Mr Raynes). He accepted that having a rough idea of the Claimant’s pricing was not confidential information. He accepted that any competitor could undercut the Claimant’s prices for different products. His key evidence was that the Claimant needed 12 months to secure the relationships with existing customers and he asserted that it was hard to police the non-solicit and non-deal undertakings but gave no evidential support for that assertion. He agreed that if the Defendant complied with the undertakings there was “possibly” no need for the RCC. He mentioned concern that competition might affect the company’s referrals, which turn into prospects once they have been spoken to. He accepted that if the Claimant had seen a change in the buying patterns of a customer that could signal a potential breach by the Defendant. He accepted that the Defendant raised product concerns with him in April 2025. He asserted that he had engaged with the COO and clients as a result but produced no documentary evidence of that. In relation to the meeting on 23.5.2025 with Mr Adams and the Defendant, Mr Raynes said he understood that the Defendant was engaged in leaving to join a competitor, who he later found out was Trunk. (That did not make sense to me because he had also accepted that the Defendant had told him in March 2025 that he had rejected the offer from Trunk). He also accepted that the Defendant was genuinely frustrated about products. He explained the difference in build up times between a warm and a cold handover. The customers the Defendant passed on were cold hand overs because of the post resignation events. He was taken through some of the successful sales in the 3 months since resignation.

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Mr Raynes was a long-term company man and clearly loyal. He made reasonable concessions where he had to make them and I generally accept his evidence was given with a genuine view to assist the Court, however I do not accept his evidence on cycle times and some other parts were illogical.

Defendant’s witnesses

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Mr Potter. The Defendant lives in Enfield. He started work with the Claimant in August 2017 and left in June 2025, so he worked for just under eight years. Much of his witness statement was occupied with answering the witness evidence provided by Mr Adams, both in his final witness statement and in his original witness statement given at the interim relief hearing. The thrust of his evidence was that Mr Adams had misled the court on a number of facts. The Defendant complained that Baker Mckenzie's disclosure was piece-meal, voluminous, overwhelming and inadequate. He described his role as a mid-level salesperson with no leadership element. He was not privy to any meaningful confidential information. In the light of his undertakings he invited the court not to make a non-compete order. He asserted there was no compelling evidence that he had breached his contract and that the 12 month RCC was unreasonable and unenforceable. He is out of work, with no job and applying for state benefits. He wants to earn money in personal tailoring, which is the only thing he knows. He feels humiliated, stressed and depressed. He takes medication for panic attacks and to sleep. He asserted that Mr Adams had misled the court when he stated there was a “review of the restrictive covenants” and “detailed consultation” with salespersons. There was no consultation or discussion with the Defendant and there was no evidence produced in the Trial Bundle. He pointed out that the Claimant made no claim for damages. The Defendant stated that he had not diverted any business or staff. He asserted that the UK company was trading as insolvent and the company auditors had expressed “unqualified concerns”. The US holding company had refused to give undertakings to the court. He asserted that the Claimant is a loss-making business. He was not challenged in cross examination on any of those assertions about the financial state of the Claimant. He asserted that the Claimant is not a member of the Saville Row Association or the Worshipful Company of Merchant Taylors. Of his role, he asserted he was not a professional. He had knowledge of textiles. His job was a lot of cold calling and then meetings, measuring and selling. He stated that none of the training he was given involved confidential information. The Washington Conference was a “work jolly” with a factory tour. The Nashville Conference was a “work jolly” with a tour of the head office and some sales training. The Chicago Conference was a “work jolly” with a tour of the Oxxford factory and a goal setting lecture. The Advanced Sales Training courses involved on-boarding and generic sales techniques. He started age 21 and it was his first proper job after he left school. He was given a contract with a 6-month set of restrictive covenants. He learned to love the job. His best sales year was 2024, when he was ranked 157 out of 450 salespersons. He asserted that the Claimant was trying to bully and crush him and he would be bankrupt if he lost. He asserted that the Claimant was trying to send a message to other sales staff. He asserted that there were 26 salespersons when he joined and 52 had gone before he left. After he left, Mr Powell, Daniel Staples and Caitlin Martin had also left. He was fed up with the working culture in the London office. Mr Adams knew that he had significant issues with the business before he left but wholly omitted to mention that in his interim relief witness statement. It was not true that his resignation “came out of the blue”. He did have conduct issues and did raise business concerns. He asserted that the holding company had businesses in 86 worldwide locations including: the UK, the USA and Canada. They make their own suits. All of the pricing is done in the USA. He was aware of pricing for made to measure and ready-made items and he was aware of promotions which were made public through LinkedIn advertisements, trunk office sales, WhatsApp messages and communication with customers. He could not recall all the different prices for all the different thousands of products and stated it would be impossible to do so. He denied ever having access to the costs of sale information. He stated that the US company owned Holland and Sherry and Oxxford, which had exclusive fabrics and manufacturing of made to measure suits. He stated that the RCC did not protect those companies from anything except mere competition. He asserted there were 20 competitors to the Claimant in London alone in made to measure garments and the Claimant was only unique because it manufactured its own clothes. The Defendant asserted his undertakings fully covered protecting the Claimant’s customer relationships. He denied that he had 461 customers and asserted he only had material dealings with far fewer. He asserted he had 81 Restricted Customers with whom he had dealings in the year before resignation, not 300. As to the build up for his successors, the Claimant usually sent videos to customers and used WhatsApp and LinkedIn messages to build up relationships and get introductions. The Defendant noted that the full extent of those had not been disclosed in the Trial Bundle. The Claimant had also given out personalised shoehorns to his ex-customers and offered 20% discounts, none of which had been properly disclosed. He stated that inadequate CRM data had been provided.

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In relation to his contract, the Defendant stated that Mr Powell and other salespersons had threatened to resign because the base salary was so low they could not get proper mortgages. It was all about pay and benefits. The Claimant faced losing more big selling salespersons. Negotiations started in July 2022 and there were no lengthy discussions to his knowledge. Eventually, the new pay structure was put to staff. Ms Colby put the written contract on his desk and directed him to the signature page. He understood there were changes to pay and entitlements and he signed it. There was no e-mail or letter informing him of restrictive covenant changes. Ms Colby certainly did not go through the restrictive covenants or the contract with him. The Claimant had disclosed no documentation at all about the rationale behind the change in the restrictive covenants in the claim. In relation to confidential information, the Defendant denied he had any work product confidential information. He accepted there was a prospective customer list on CRM but he did not have it. He had information on customers and their personal information which he accepted was confidential. He wrote Notability notes and entered them onto the CRM. He entered measurements too. He listed the holding companies and Group Companies which included: Holland and Sherry, Oxxford, English American Tailoring, Individualised Shirts, Measure Up, Crossville (Chile), Gitman Grothers, TJ Chile, Couples Canada. The Defendant stated he had dealings with all of those companies. He had regular weekly meetings with US staff, chasing up items. He asserted that these communications were material to his work and sales. He complained that a global RCC prevented him working, for instance in the US, Chile and Canada, despite the fact that most of his customers were in London. He had five customers outside the UK living in Switzerland and Germany. He denied setting up in competition or working for any competitor. He asked what information the Claimant was seeking to protect. He had agreed not to solicit or deal with customers. He knew nothing of confidential pricing structures and pointed out there was no documentation about confidential pricing structures in the Trial Bundle. He had no proprietary planning and sales methodologies and did not know what that meant. He said the training was generic for sales and included reading Dale Carnegie's book “How to make friends and influence people”. The Defendant accepted he had information on all of the products sold in the UK but this was useless to competitors for they could not sell the made to measure products. The Defendant asserted the Claimant’s newsletters were full of lists of their products for sale. He asserted he could not recall 24 plus measurements for suits and 11 plus measurements for shirts for thousands of customers and Mr Adams was being misleading asserting that he could. He challenged Mr Adams’ assertion that the Restrictive Covenants were “substantially the same” save as to duration. They clearly were not. He pointed out that his notice period was one month, therefore the required handover could have been no more than one month and relatively simple. The Claimant wanted the minimum notice and the maximum restrictive covenant on competition. He asserted that no evidence had been provided of the reasoning for extending his RCC. As for buying cycles, he asserted customers’ habits fluctuated but were not generally seasonal. As for building up customer relationships, he denied that such would take a year. Most of his customers were “open ticket customers” not seasonal. They were not buying on bonuses generally. The average cost of a suit was £2,500. Bonuses for wealthy, high earning customers, were far higher than that. As for relationship build up times, he asserted from the information provided by the Claimant, that his customers were quickly reallocated and each new salesperson contacted each of his top 80 or so customers. 43 of those contacts were successful in getting responses. 18% had bought. Having done so himself, he gave evidence that it would only take a few weeks to set up a meeting if a customer wanted a meeting, therefore the reasons advanced for the 12 month RCC did not stand up to scrutiny. He analysed his top customers’ buying cycles and his analysis showed that 56% had buying cycles of under six months. His analysis showed a median buying cycle of 5.61 months and a mean of 7.78 months. He criticised the company's analysis because it covered 300 customers. Their analysis of the relevant 81customers (faulted though it was) came to 8.65 months as the median, therefore his median and their medium was apart by only 3 months and all were under 12 months. He criticised the Claimant’s figures for including outliers with very high purchase cycles.

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In relation to the company's philosophy, the Defendant asserted it was a small, loss-making business, with a toxic culture. The company had 26 sales staff when he started and 9 when he resigned. When previous staff members resigned, he asserted the company had not enforced the restrictive covenants against any. He was not challenged on that assertion. Two had set up their own businesses in 2016 and 2017. He denied that information about company stock was received as an employee, it was received as a stockholder. He rejected the assertion that he had intentionally failed to take part in handovers. He was signed off sick by his GP in very early June 2025 after a buildup of stress due to: the issues at work, the “counselling” and the threatening letters he received from the Claimant after resignation. He handed back the company information on the 2 USB sticks. The second was later because he did not understand that WhatsApp messages were required. When he resigned, he had a sense of grievance because he was being disciplined when others, including XX, who was “doing cocaine” and YY, who he asserted was having relations with a junior female salesperson despite being married, were not disciplined. He was not challenged on either of those assertions and Mr Raynes said nothing relating to those allegations in his witness statement or live evidence. The Defendant received a job offer from Trunk via Edwin Jung. He informed the company about it. He was open and honest. In January 2025 he was suspended by Ms Colby and then required, by Mr Adams, to sign an Addendum or to resign. That Addendum required him: to go to Alcoholics Anonymous; abstain from alcohol; have weekly counselling meetings with Father Bob to confess his sins and other matters. He had to go to a workplace counsellor in London as well. He was excluded from a trip to Aruba, which he had earned and he was excluded from attending all conferences (work jollies) until 2026. He had to write a letter of apology. The Defendant found this profoundly demotivating, hypocritical and it made him unhappy that seniors had behaved worse and were not being disciplined in the same way. Alcohol was frequently drunk in the office and the Defendant asserted that Mr Raynes repeatedly behaved inappropriately with female staff. Various complaints had been made against him. The Defendant was not challenged on those assertions. The Defendant found the phone calls with Father Bob highly intrusive, oppressively religious and creepy. He told Mr Adams. He was deteriorating at work as a result of what he saw as unfair treatment and humiliation. He felt demeaned by Father Bob. He took advice from Mr Kwak who had recently moved. On the 12th of March 2025 he had a meeting with Mr Adams and informed him of the offer from Trunk and that he considered the mandatory counselling, the exclusion from management and the loss of earned rewards all unfair treatment. He also raised manufacturing quality issues and a breakdown in his relationship with another salesman called Hickey. Mr Adams said he should talk to Mr Raynes (one of those who had not been disciplined and who should have been in the Defendant’s view). The Defendant denied that he stated, as Mr Adams alleged, that he intended to leave and compete with the Claimant company. The Defendant asserted this was a “downright lie”. Later the Defendant did discuss the Trunk offer with Mr Raynes and told him that he had rejected it. The Defendant found Father Bob’s continuing “therapy” intrusive and also found out that Father Bob was reporting to Mr Adams about the contents of the therapy sessions. The Defendant raised garment quality issues with Mr Raynes, who was dismissive. The Defendant was at a family barbecue in April when an estate agency job was discussed. Father Bob then sent the Defendant a Briggs Myers personality test, to his home, on the 13th of May 2025, which the Defendant considered was intrusive. On the 23rd of May 2025 he met Mr Adams and Mr Raynes at a hotel and raised his product quality issues. These were dismissed. He was not criticised for the level of his sales. He resigned that afternoon, in frustration.

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The Defendant denied any unlawful conduct. He did not invite customers to the trunk show because he had resigned. In any event, 13 of his customers did attend and bought goods there. Usually, salespersons invite customers a few days before. He asserted he cooperated with the handover of group data but he was initially put on gardening leave and then called back in after being cut off from all IT and required to sit in the Accounts office. On the Sunday, after he resigned, he had received what he regarded as a very aggressive and contentious letter from Baker McKenzie, delivered in person to his partner’s hand at his home. It was deliberately threatening and intimidating. He believed they were gearing up to sue him with the allegation that he was going to compete. He replied and met Ms Colby in a coffee shop and handed over the key a few days later. The company did not return his personal effects until late August 2025. Ms Colby never did an exit interview with him. His sales dropped in the two months before he left the company because of the intrusive, religious style counselling from Father Bob and his disaffection with the company including quality issues. He pointed out that he did not drop 131% of his sales. He was off work for 9.5 days, on holiday, took two days on sick leave and was suspended in January 2025. On the 28th of May 2025, Father Bob emailed him personally to ask for him to pay privately for therapy. He was upset that Ms Colby had threatened that the company might not repurchase his stock. He went to his GP in very early June and produced the two GP certificates. He was upset that Ms Colby was highly sceptical of his diagnosis. She could have arranged an occupational health review but never did. He criticised Baker McKenzie's aggressive letters and demands for wide-ranging undertakings, which were beyond the contractual ones, and which they subsequently withdrew and apologised for. He denied doing anything improper in a conversation with Mr Kwak, other than unburdening his situation and asking for advice. He did not say he was setting up a new business in competition and ask Mr Kwak to come with him. He denied Mr Adams’ assertions about his conversation with Connor Morrison. Mr Morrison had been given a “last chance” Addendum too and was considering leaving the holding company. The Defendant gave him reassurance. Finally, in relation to rebuilding relationships with customers, the Defendant analysed the sales post departure and the information provided, which was deficient, but showed 43 of his top 80 or so customers had been contacted successfully. He complained that the RCC had no geographic restriction; included the words “intends to” which were vague and was far too wide and was broader than just restricted to clothes manufacturers. It applied to suppliers of competing products globally. He asserted he was materially concerned in businesses outside the UK, including the US and Chile. He asserted that the scope of the RCC was so wide he would be prevented from working in the USA and the duration was far too long. He had asked for objective data to justify the RCC but Baker McKenzie refused to provide it.

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In cross examination the Defendant repeated that he would love to do what he loves doing, in competition with the Claimant, but not with their customers. He stuck to his evidence about the lack of confidential information in training. He stated that the garments produced in the Oxxford factory and the English American factory were not secret. There was a video of how these suits were made and stitched available which was sent to customers. English American makes suits for other companies and those are not confidential either. He stated that all of the training made him a more skilful salesman and increased his skill base. It was not confidential. Although the majority of his clients were in the City of London, Canary Wharf and Westminster he also went to Harpenden and Hounslow. As for the off the peg and ready-made products, he accepted they were a small part of his sales because he personally liked to concentrate on custom clothing, but he did sell shoes, ties and off the peg items. He stressed, in relationship building, that the key was the first contact made, then the interest of the customer could be judged and a meeting set up or the customer could state the reason for delaying a meeting until later. Establishing first contact was the most important thing. He stuck to his evidence about his discussion with Mr Kwak. He accepted he had benefited from a warm handover from Paul Copp, but reasserted that his handover was prevented by his diagnosis of stress and being signed off work. He stated that many other salespersons had left with no handover and it was not unusual at all. In total 56 sales persons had left during his time and including some after he resigned. He had rarely received information from any prior salesperson who had resigned assisting him in handover. He just read the CRM data and contacted the clients. He was taken through the Claimant’s analysis of median cycle times and persisted with his criticism of the way they had calculated their median figures. He criticised the use of clients who had only been buyers as long ago as three years. Some were dormant and inactive. That skewed the Claimant’s figures. He did not accept that he had limited contact with US staff in his work. He asserted he had weekly contact in relation to the garments he was selling and customer queries. He called to the US most days. He had sold over 500,000 U.S. dollars in 2024 and had joined the Presidents Club in 2023 and his sales were progressing. He had incentive trips arranged, including to Aruba. He had no agenda for leaving. He stuck to his evidence about there being no discussion of the changes to the 2022 restrictive covenants. He accepted that the customer measurements could be regarded as confidential and if they were obtained by a competitor would give a competitive advantage however, he could not recall them and had handed all the information back. As for referrals and prospects, he could not recall them and there might be hundreds of them. As for pricing, he was aware of the pricing of products at 5 core levels of suits but he could not remember the detailed pricing of alterations. However, prices and promotions were publicised on LinkedIn. He did not change his evidence in relation to the vast majority of his witness statement. He was cross examined firmly on the basis that he was “choking off” sales in his last three months with a view to building up a competing business with Mr Powell, but he vigorously denied this assertion. He relied on the successful sales by the Claimant to his top 78 customers since his resignation. He gave evidence that, for contact with the customer to be material, a sale was not necessary. What was necessary was to record that the customer wanted the relationship to continue and when he wanted the seller to return to him. He did not consider it would be difficult to police his undertakings. Clients would stop buying and sales patterns would be visibly changed if he was poaching them. Customers, when spoken to, would give different answers to those that they usually gave. He did not accept that because it is a face to face market it was difficult to police. The opposite. The Defendant asserted that he regularly spoke to staff in Holland and Sherry, the Oxxford factory, the English American factory, the Chile factory and a factory in Canada. The Defendant considered that inheriting customers was a good thing because it gave a chance to reopen a relationship and push it on. Every salesperson wanted to inherit customers in the top part of the leaving salesperson's list. He maintained his criticism of Mr Hitt’s median buying cycle calculations, because they included outliers and the wrong sample range. Even using those buying cycles the Defendant asserted that the real median figure was either his figure which was below 6 months or Mr Hitt’s figure, which was 8.7 months, but Mr Hitt’s figure should be reduced because it included outliers. He asserted that it took him ages to organise the WhatsApps for the second USB stick because, when his access to the company’s IT was cut off, all of the names were deleted, so all he had left were the numbers. He had to go laboriously through each, one by one, and transfer it onto the USB stick and then delete it from his personal phone. There was quite a lot of cross examination on which legal firm he had instructed at what stage, but I did not find the questions or the answers at all helpful with the issues I have to decide.

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During cross examination Claimant’s counsel clarified that the risk that the Claimant was worried about was the risk to existing customers, referrals and prospects, not the risk of competing for new customers.

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Mr Johnson. This former employee of the Claimant gave evidence for the Defendant. His experience showed that many of his customers purchased 3 or 4 times per year in a regular buying pattern. He left the Claimant in 2021. He considered that a 12 month RCC was an “outrageous” notion and sought to answer the points raised by Mr Adams. He contradicted Mr Adams’ assertion that most clients buy every two years. He did not consider that clients’ buying cycles supported a 12 month RCC. He did not consider that salespersons were privy to business related information that could confer a competitive advantage in relation to work products, strategic planning materials or sales methodologies. He stated Mr Adams was “hamming it up”. Nor did the salespeople have pricing strategies, product line development or other proprietary planning sales methodologies. What salespeople knew were clients’ measurements, names, personal information and contact details. Mr. Johnson stated that a large number of salespersons had left the Claimant because it was not a happy place to work, with aggressive management. He felt unvalued, so he left. When he left, he was not asked to hand back his WhatsApp messages and nothing was done to assert there was any confidential information in them. He had regular experience of inheriting clients from departing salespersons. Clients were often lawyers, accountants or investment bankers and the new salesperson would make contact as soon as possible and in particular during the notice period. He did not find such customers hard to reach. The cross examination of Mr Johnson was short. His evidence was not seriously challenged and those challenges which were put did not change his evidence. Whilst employed, he had access to the intranet through something called VSS, which was a company app put on his phone, which provided pricing for products of various styles and fabrics.

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Mr Duncan. This gentleman was a former salesperson between 1996 and 2019 for the Claimant. He resigned. His evidence was that he was disappointed to see that the Claimant company was seeking a 12 month RCC. His contract had 6-month restrictive covenants, therefore he refrained contacting his old customers for six months. He did so even when customers contacted him. He referred them back to the Claimant. He set up his own tailoring business in 2019 and was not injuncted by the Claimant. However, in February 2020 John Hitt sent him a communication alleging his non-compete clause was of 12 month duration. Mr Hitt was corrected and backed off. Based on his experience, his clients made purchases 3 to 4 times per annum and a small number of clients contributed disproportionately to his volume of sales. He inherited many of his customers. He denied Mr Adams’ assertion that most customers do not buy every year but every two years. He rejected Mr Adams’ justification for the 12 month duration of the RCC based on buying cycles or to protect confidential information. He considered that salespersons did not have business related information or information about work products, strategic planning materials, proprietary sales methodologies or pricing strategies. He had happy memories of working for the Claimant for 23.5 years but, by the end, it was not a happy place to work. He was threatened when he had shoulder surgery of being demoted out of leadership. He had a handover meeting or two with Ms Colby when he resigned. It was his experience that salespersons were heavily incentivized to start selling to inherited Restricted Customers straight after the departure of the previous salesperson. This was a regular occurrence. He rejected Mr Adams’ evidence that it took many months before customers could be contacted. He said this was “untrue”. He asserted that the Claimant had lied to his old customers saying he had moved to Scotland. He had told the Claimant that he was taking six months off and was then going to set up his own business. Cross examination of Mr Duncan was particularly short and at the end of it I could see no proper reason why he had been called to Court at all. All that was put to him was that his information was a bit out of date. In any event, I found Mr Duncan an honest and balanced, independent witness.

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Mr Kwak. Patrick Kwak is a high flying corporate lawyer, in a large legal firm which is global. He was a customer of the Claimant, served by the Defendant. He considers that a 12 month non-compete for a garment salesperson was an “outrageous notion” and he was disappointed that the Claimant, through their lawyers, had weaponized his conversation with the Defendant. He bought the Claimant’s garments between March 2023 and March 2025. His average purchasing time was 4.8 months. He denied Mr Adams’ hearsay summary of his conversation with the Defendant. He denied what Mr Ashton allegedly said to Mr Adams. When Mr Ashton had first called him, after the Defendant left the Claimant’s employment, he was on the school run, in the rain and so it was not a convenient time. He accepted he had been present for a conversation with the Defendant in March 2025 about the Defendant’s potential exit from the Claimant and his future plans. The Defendant was trying to work out what to do and they had recently discussed Mr Kwak’s own job move and the Defendant sought his input. Mr Kwak denied the assertion that the Defendant had indicated he had secured a new job in a competitor and wished to poach Mr Kwak for the competitor. He also denied telling Mr Ashton on the 10th of June 2025 that he intended to continue buying from the Defendant “in his new shop”. He considered that the quality of the Claimant’s product was slipping and had become increasingly “mass market”. It was only the Defendant’s curation that kept him buying. He stated clearly to the Court that the Defendant did not solicit him on behalf of any rival business. He denied that the Defendant breached any duty of good faith or fidelity he owed to the Claimant. Mr Kwak did not alter his evidence in cross examination and stated he did not wish to get into bullying of the Defendant by the Claimant.